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IMO, at the end of the day, a lot of it comes down to how guys are coached

If you take a 5* recruit and put him with Bobby Bowden or Nick Saban, chances are they're going to excel in a major way. If you take a 3* kid and put him with Bowden or Saban, they're likely going to succeed. Is their ceiling as high as a 5*? Rarely, but often it happens. Lamar Jackson comes to mind as a 3* who is outperforming basically every 5* at his position.

In a lot of sports, the very best high school guys are rarely better than college-level starters who have multiple years in a system. For instance, there isn't a 5* LB in high school right now who would come in and supplant Micah Kiser (who was a 3* out of high school). I saw it first hand in wrestling when multi-year All Americans and National Champions would go to major programs, and wouldn't see the mat as a starter for at least two years. It's not that they're "not good", it's that guys who have multiple years in a college level program are simply better at the sport than high school guys.

Going further, if you take a 5* recruit and put him with a bad coach, there's a decent chance not going to excel far beyond his high school accolades. I'm sure you can already think of a few examples of these types of guys. Now you mix in 3* guys with bad coaches, and that's when you get into discussions about coaching changes. London was given a long leash so long as he was bringing in 4 and 5* guys. Once recruiting dropped off, he was done.

For the here and now, the question with CBM is can he take 3* guys he believes fits his system, and coach a sizable number of them up to a high performing level? I suspect this question will get many mixed reviews on this board, but it's the scenario any coach would have found himself in with this program.

(In response to this post by HowieT3)

Posted: 04/18/2017 at 09:20AM

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  Keyword in your opening sentence, "was". -- AcousticHoo 04/18/2017 1:07PM
  Here is my take on the UNCHEAT SCANDLE After -- DiyYHoo 04/18/2017 12:17PM
  Scandle, is that French? ** -- hoodeyo 04/18/2017 12:27PM
  C'est le plus grand scandle de N.C.A.A.! -- hoodeyo 04/18/2017 9:19PM
  Sry all lol...Scandal of course! ** -- DiyYHoo 04/18/2017 8:29PM
  Just to give some perspective on "The Scandal" - -- HowieT3 04/18/2017 09:05AM
  Disagree somewhat... -- uva123 04/18/2017 11:02AM
  Let me clarify... -- Hoo23 04/18/2017 1:35PM
  If the other teams also have good coaches and -- mwolve 04/19/2017 11:11AM
  Comes down to two things.... -- Zhoo 04/18/2017 11:15AM
  Totally agree. ** -- HowieT3 04/18/2017 09:58AM
  Why should UNC be in sports purgatory? -- rdm 04/17/2017 11:35PM
  Lame... -- rhino 04/18/2017 12:06AM
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